<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>US Political Scene &#187; Prop 8</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/tag/prop-8/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com</link>
	<description>A right of center view of American politics</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:28:38 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator>
		<item>
		<title>What It Cost to Support Prop 8</title>
		<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/10/what-it-cost-to-support-prop-8/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=what-it-cost-to-support-prop-8</link>
		<comments>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/10/what-it-cost-to-support-prop-8/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 03:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[democracy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[hate]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Prop 8]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/?p=421</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The Price of Prop 8. That links to a summary of many of the acts of hatred, abuse, vandalism, and crime perpetrated against supporters of Proposition 8 in California. The article provides documented cases of actions taken against those who stood up in support of marriage. Here's an example of some of what occurred: "Many [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/05/prop-8-stands/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Stands!'>Prop 8 Stands!</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Family/bg2328.cfm" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.heritage.org/Research/Family/bg2328.cfm?referer=');">The Price of Prop 8</a>. That links to a summary of many of the acts of hatred, abuse, vandalism, and crime perpetrated against supporters of Proposition 8 in California. The article provides documented cases of actions taken against those who stood up in support of marriage.</p>
<p>Here's an example of some of what occurred:</p>
<blockquote><p>"Many reports of hostility toward Prop 8 supporters involve acts of vandalism. An elderly couple who put a Yes on 8 sign in their yard had a block thrown through their window. A senior citizen who placed a pro-Prop-8 bumper sticker on her car had her car's rear window smashed in. Some individuals with pro-Prop-8 bumper stickers had their cars keyed. One woman with a "One Man, One Woman" bumper sticker had her car keyed and tires deflated while she was in a grocery store. One man who placed signs in his yard and stickers on his cars and motorbike reported that someone egged and floured his home three times and egged, floured, and honeyed his car twice. Someone also pushed over the man's motorbike and scraped the bumper stickers off the back glass windows of his cars. Several other individuals reported that Yes on Prop 8 bumper stickers were scraped or ripped off their vehicles or defaced."</p></blockquote>
<p>LDS Apostle Dallin H. Oaks <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/religious-freedom" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/religious-freedom?referer=');">recently stated</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>"We must not be deterred or coerced into             silence by the kinds of intimidation I have described. We             must insist on our constitutional right and duty to exercise             our religion, to vote our consciences on public issues and             to participate in elections and debates in the public square             and the halls of justice.... It is important             to note that while this aggressive intimidation in             connection with the Proposition 8 election was primarily             directed at religious persons and symbols, it was not             anti-religious as such. These incidents were expressions of             outrage against those who disagreed with the gay-rights             position and had prevailed in a public contest. <strong>As such,             these incidents of 'violence and intimidation' are not so             much anti-religious as anti-democratic. In their effect they             are like the well-known and widely condemned             voter-intimidation of blacks in the South that produced             corrective federal civil-rights legislation.</strong>"</p></blockquote>
<p>Dallin Oaks stated that the effects of intimidation towards those who supported Prop 8 were like voter-intimidation in the South during the civil right movement. Oaks did not say that what occurred in response to Prop 8 was necessarily as bad as blacks faced in the South; he said that blacks faced acts that were meant, among other things, to intimidate them and keep them from voting. Many people in California faced acts meant to intimidate them from voting in support of Prop 8. Voter intimidation is anti-democratic, as Oaks said.</p>
<p>As I've <a href="http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/">written previously</a>, it is hypocritical for people who preach "no hate" to turn around and instigate acts or words of hatred against supporters of Prop 8. In any case, we must, regardless of consequences, be willing to stand up for what we believe is right. There is plenty of room for disagreement - as there should be - but there is no room for incivility.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/05/prop-8-stands/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Stands!'>Prop 8 Stands!</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol></p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/10/what-it-cost-to-support-prop-8/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</title>
		<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8</link>
		<comments>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[2008 Election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[government]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[LDS Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Prop 8]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/?p=221</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released the following article today on their newsroom site: Media Reports on Proposition 8 Filing Uninformed The article is fairly brief but very comprehensive. If anyone still doubts the Church's financial role in Prop 8, they are just willfully rebelling against the truth. The Church was always [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
</ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released the following article today on their newsroom site:</p>
<p><a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/media-reports-on-proposition-8-filing-uninformed" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/media-reports-on-proposition-8-filing-uninformed?referer=');">Media Reports on Proposition 8 Filing Uninformed</a></p>
<p>The article is fairly brief but very comprehensive. If anyone still doubts the Church's financial role in Prop 8, they are just willfully rebelling against the truth. The Church was always very open about its role, they never tried to hide any part of their involvement in Prop 8. LDS Church members were encouraged to vote in the election and to vote in defense of traditional marriage but no one was ever forced to vote a particular way. The LDS Church became involved in the issue because it is an important and fundamental moral issue. Marriage and family are the foundation of society. Redefining marriage to include same-sex couples is a radical shift that could have unintended negative consequences on society for generations. It is an attack on the sacred bond of marriage and family.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
</ol></p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</title>
		<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=prop-8-spending-update-and-lies</link>
		<comments>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[2008 Election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[LDS Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[money]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Prop 8]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/?p=216</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The final numbers are in. "The final tallies show that opponents of Proposition 8 raised $43.3 million in 2008 and had a little more than $730,000 left on hand at year's end. The measure's sponsors raised $39.9 million and had $983,000 left over." (Source). Many opponents of Prop 8 are bitter about the measure passing. [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The final numbers are in. "The final tallies show that opponents of Proposition 8 raised $43.3 million in 2008 and had a little more than $730,000 left on hand at year's end. The measure's sponsors raised $39.9 million and had $983,000 left over." (<a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hKiw9iO4JJqxjTDd98GqpwyqDEewD963PUK00" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hKiw9iO4JJqxjTDd98GqpwyqDEewD963PUK00?referer=');">Source</a>). Many opponents of Prop 8 are bitter about the measure passing. Some say that the LDS Church bought Prop 8 (see below), yet opponents raised and spent more money on the measure than proponents did. The hatred toward the LDS Church is mind-boggling. I don't mind the hatred though but I do mind the lies.</p>
<p>Here are a few inaccurate headlines/articles describing the LDS Church's role in Prop 8.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.queerty.com/how-the-mormon-church-bought-prop-8-20090202/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.queerty.com/how-the-mormon-church-bought-prop-8-20090202/?referer=');"><em>How the Mormon Church Bought Prop 8</em></a><em> </em>(this site is full of hatred; I just skimmed some of the comments to the article. They were appalling).<em> </em>If the LDS Church bought Prop 8 with their $190,000 of in-kind (non-monetary) donations, that's quite a good return on their money considering that is less than 0.44% of the total money spent <em><strong>by opponents of Prop 8</strong></em>. In other words, if the LDS Church bought the proposition then their $190,000 of non-monetary donations was more effective than the $43.3 million spent by opponents of Prop 8. That's quite a good return on money. So who bought the election (it of course begs the question that the election results were purchased)? Even if you factor in contributions by individual LDS Church members (and of course, church members do not equal the LDS Church in any political or legal sense), they still raised and spent less than half of the money opponents raised and spent.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-2134-DC-Ethical-Issues-Examiner~y2009m2d2-Separation-of-church-and-stateexcept-in-Utah-and-uh-California" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.examiner.com/x-2134-DC-Ethical-Issues-Examiner_y2009m2d2-Separation-of-church-and-stateexcept-in-Utah-and-uh-California?referer=');"><em>Separation of Church and State...except in Utah and, Uh, California</em></a>. I will not provide much commentary on this article (because their dishonest portrayal of the issue has already been addressed by the LDS Church). The author completely misunderstands the 1st Amendment (and separation of church and state, for that matter). I love this drossy gem: "There’s no point in asking if what LDS did is ethical; clearly, it is not. But that didn’t stop the church from intensifying its disregard for the rule of law and the political system in this country."</p>
<p><em><a href="http://blogout.justout.com/?p=6189" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/blogout.justout.com/?p=6189&amp;referer=');">Mormons Caught in $188,000 Lie</a>.</em> I'm sorry but the only lies being told are by the opponents of the LDS Church on this matter. The LDS Church acted in accordance to law. The reported every expenditure within the time frame that they were legally required to. If you argue that the Church was trying to hide their involvement, then you have to argue just as strongly that all other groups on both sides of the issue who just reported their financial contributions were hiding their involvement as well.</p>
<p>There are more inaccuracies along the same lines. The LDS Church already <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/church-clarifies-proposition-8-filing-corrects-erroneous-news-reports" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/church-clarifies-proposition-8-filing-corrects-erroneous-news-reports?referer=');">responded to the issue</a>. They hid nothing. They did not lie. They acted well within all legal, moral, and ethical bounds. The only lies being told are those who spread this misinformation about the LDS Church.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol></p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</title>
		<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=lds-church-prop-8-spending-update</link>
		<comments>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[2008 Election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[government]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[LDS Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Prop 8]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/?p=211</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[From the LDS Church Newsroom site: "SALT LAKE CITY. 2 February 2009. Today The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints clarified erroneous news reports following the filing of its final report on donations to the ProtectMarriage.com coalition. On Friday, 30 January, the Church filed the final report of its contributions (all of which were [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/church-clarifies-proposition-8-filing-corrects-erroneous-news-reports" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/church-clarifies-proposition-8-filing-corrects-erroneous-news-reports?referer=');">LDS Church Newsroom site</a>: "SALT LAKE CITY. 2 February 2009. Today The Church             of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints clarified erroneous             news reports following the filing of its final report on             donations to the ProtectMarriage.com coalition.</p>
<p>On Friday, 30             January, the Church filed the final report of its             contributions (all of which were non-monetary) to the             ProtectMarriage.com coalition. The report, submitted in             advance of the 31 January deadline, details in-kind             donations totaling $189,903.58.</p>
<p>The value of the             Church’s in-kind (non-monetary) contribution is less than             one half of one percent of the total funds (approximately             $40 million) raised for the “Yes on 8” campaign. The Church             did not make any cash contribution.</p>
<p>Because media             coverage about this filing ran without a comment from the             Church, the following statements of fact from the Church add             context to this story and should help correct the record:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> <strong>Fox13</strong> </em> <em> <strong>(Utah):</strong> </em> <em>“The documents show the amount spent by the Mormon Church                 is greater than what was initially stated.”</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><strong>Fact:</strong> The Church, like other organizations on both             sides of the ballot issue, was required to publicly file             these donations by the 31 January deadline. The Church has             been filing required contribution reports throughout the             campaign. Those earlier donations “initially stated” were             filed for specific time periods prior to this last reporting             period, as required by law. Other groups are also filing             their final contribution reports to meet the same deadline.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> <strong>San Francisco Chronicle</strong> </em> <em> <strong>:</strong> </em> <em>“Mormon church officials, facing an ongoing investigation                 by the state Fair Political Practices Commission, Friday                 reported nearly $190,000 in previously unlisted                 assistance to the successful campaign for Prop. 8, which                 banned same-sex marriage in California.”</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> <strong>Sacramento Bee</strong> </em> <strong>:</strong> <em>“The disclosure comes amid an investigation by the                 state's campaign watchdog agency into whether the Church                 of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints violated state laws                 by not fully disclosing its involvement during the campaign.”</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><strong>Fact:</strong> This filing is in no way prompted by an             investigation by the California Fair Political Practices             Commission. Many organizations are filing this week to meet             the deadline required by law. We believe we have complied             with California law.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> <strong>KFMB 760 AM</strong> </em> <em> <strong>(San Diego)</strong> </em> <strong>:</strong></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> “Mormon Church Misstated How Much It Spent in Prop 8 Fight.”</em><br />
<em>“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints                 previously claimed only about $2,000 was spent in                 support of the measure.”</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><em> <strong>365Ga</strong> <strong>y</strong> <strong>:</strong> “Mormon Church admits it spent 100 times more                 for Prop 8 than reported”</em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 40px;"><p><strong>Fact:</strong> Again, the previous disclosure of an in-kind             donation was to meet an earlier deadline. In fact, previous             filings detailed over $50,000 out of the total non-monetary             contribution of $189,903.58. This week’s filing reported             donations that fell within a different time period and             required reporting by the 31 January deadline. Other groups             also made their final contributions reports this week.</p></blockquote>
<p>Understanding the             extent of donations from other organizations may help the             media and the public better understand the context in which             the Church’s donations were made."</p>
<p>The LDS Church clearly acted in accordance to the law. The only reason this is an issue is because some people are so hateful of the Church that they try to do anything to discredit them.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8'>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol></p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>The LDS Church Contributed $190,000 in &#8220;In-kind&#8221; Donations to Prop 8</title>
		<link>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8</link>
		<comments>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[2008 Election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[government]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[marriage]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[religion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[election]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[LDS Church]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Prop 8]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/?p=204</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: I corrected the figures in this post now that we have the actual amounts. I will post a reprint of the LDS Church's clarification of news stories about the issue. On Friday the LDS Church filed a report outlining their contributions to the Prop 8 campaign in California. They spent $190,000 (a GLBT site [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: I corrected the figures in this post now that we have the actual amounts. I will post a reprint of the LDS Church's clarification of news stories about the issue.</p>
<p>On Friday the LDS Church <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mormons-prop831-2009jan31,0,4854351.story" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mormons-prop831-2009jan31_0_4854351.story?referer=');">filed a report</a> outlining their contributions to the Prop 8 campaign in California. They spent $190,000 (a <a href="http://ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=3163&amp;MediaType=1&amp;Category=26" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=3163_amp_MediaType=1_amp_Category=26&amp;referer=');">GLBT site reports the amount</a> was "more than $190 thousand." Notice how the amount creeps upward as sites become more pro-homosexual. Note: I don't know what the actual amount is; news sites have just been rounding the number - some up and some down). $96,000 of that was spent paying some church employees for their time (e.g., designing a website or things like that). The rest came from flying church officials to California (and putting them in hotels and renting cars and similar expenses). The Church did not donate any money directly. When a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/politics/26marriage.html?ref=us" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/politics/26marriage.html?ref=us&amp;referer=');">complaint was filed</a> against the Church in November 2008, the LDS Church stated they would be making all required declarations by the time they were legally required to. They were not required by law to declare their contributions until <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/30/BA7615KLB9.DTL&amp;type=politics" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/30/BA7615KLB9.DTL_amp_type=politics&amp;referer=');">February 2, 2009</a>.</p>
<p>The articles I linked to generally do not give the LDS Church the benefit of the doubt (searching the related headlines in Google News reveals such biased gems as "Mormon Church Misstated How Much It Spent in Prop 8 Fight"). The news bias is not surprising given that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_2008?referer=');">all 10 major California newspapers</a> editorialized <em>against</em> Prop 8. Only the SF Chronicle even bothers to mention the Feb. 2 deadline for reporting contributions. However, those who filed the complaint against the Church believe that the Church was required to report their contributions earlier.</p>
<p>The Yes on 8 campaign spent $39.2 million out of a total of about $41 million spent (<a href="http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifornia/story/1589451.html" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifornia/story/1589451.html?referer=');">Source</a>). Older estimates had supporters of Prop 8 spending $35.8 million with opponents spending $37.6 million (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_2008?referer=');">Source</a>). We'll see what the revised number is once opponents of Prop 8 declare all their contributions (it is likely higher than the $41 million spent to support Prop 8). While LDS Church members donated a sizable portion of the money spent to support Prop 8 (possibly as high as $20 million - but those are estimates are by anti-Prop 8 groups and so may be on the high end of the actual amount), the LDS Church as an entity donated a whopping <strong>0.45% of the total money spent</strong> to support Prop 8!</p>
<p>True, individual LDS Church members might have donated 50% of the money spent in support of Prop 8 (again, this is based on unofficial estimates) but church members who donated are citizens and are allowed to donate however they want to. Hollywood celebrities contributed large of amounts of money to fight Prop 8 (for example, Brad Pitt donated $100,000). At least churches are Constitutionally-protected entities unlike Hollywood. The LDS Church encouraged time and money donations but never forced anyone to donate. It's ironic how some who "fight against hate" hate the LDS Church so much. Where are all the complaints against entities who made anti-Prop 8 contributions?</p>
<p>Showing their intense hatred of hate, Californians Against Hate has a "<a href="http://www.californiansagainsthate.com/dishonorRoll.html" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.californiansagainsthate.com/dishonorRoll.html?referer=');">Dishonor Roll</a>" that includes people who donated more than $5000 to support Prop 8. Way to fight hate! It's the kind of list I'd like to be on.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-prop-8-spending-update/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update'>LDS Church Prop 8 Spending Update</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/prop-8-spending-update-and-lies/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)'>Prop 8 Spending Update (and Lies)</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/lds-church-further-clarifies-its-role-in-prop-8/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8'>LDS Church Further Clarifies Its Role in Prop 8</a></li>
</ol></p>]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://www.uspoliticalscene.com/2009/02/the-lds-church-contributed-180000-in-in-kind-donations-to-prop-8/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
